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| Novice Geregistreerd: Mar 2008 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 19 Geslacht: M
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Karma Power: 0 | Langzame herhalingen voor sterker worden?
Beste Lezers' Ik denk dat langzaam trainen, in de zin van 1 sec. duwen en 4 sec. laten zakken, waarbij ik bankdrukken even als voorbeeld neem, een trainingsvorm om sterker te worden, maar ook een manier om conditiespieren te vormen. Omdat het een langdurige training is, belast je de spier extra veel. Ik zou graag willen weten, of jullie het daar mee eens zijn? |
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| Competitive Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Mar 2005 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 23 Geslacht: M
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Je vergroot de TUT (Time Under Tension) iets wat kan bijdragen tot hypertrofie. "conditiespieren" aka spieruithoudingsvermogen ga je er zeker niet mee ontwikkelen daar zul je dan flink wat reps voor moeten maken. Imo 1 op 3 neer is ideaal. Superslow trainen is imo counterproductief omdat je veel lichter moet gaan trainen om je sets af te maken, dit heeft als gevolg dat je de progressive overload teniet doet iets wat vele malen beter werk voor hypertrofie en kracht. |
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| Novice Geregistreerd: Mar 2008 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 19 Geslacht: M
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| Dutch Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Jan 2008 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 19 Geslacht: M
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zolang je je spier prikkelt dan zal je na goed herstel sterker worden. ik denk dat het meer afhangt van de herhalingen als je het over kracht en conditie hebt en niet van "langzaam" trainen.
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| Competitive Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Mar 2005 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 23 Geslacht: M
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Geen van beide. Er zijn theorien die zeggen dat je door het verhogen van de TUT meer hypertrofie kunt bewerkstelligen. Persoonlijk vind ik dat progressieve overload the key is tot spiergroei en spierkracht. TUT valt dus weg tegen het overload principe. |
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| Super Moderator Geregistreerd: Apr 2002 Locatie: افغانستان Geslacht: V
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Ik denk dat TUT op zich niet zo veel zegt, zonder daarbij repindeling te betrekken. Lees dit eens door (Charles Staley) Hey Louis, Yes, I'm a great believe in "TUT," in fact, I strongly believe that every time you perform a set, some period of time should elapse. OK, now for a more serious answer... Before I go into my thoughts on TUT, I want to point out something that you may be unaware of: YOU'RE OVERTHINKING THINGS. You really are, and the reason I know is I've been there myself. I've endlessly studied every training nuance you can imagine— post-tetanic facilitation, rate coding, upward versus downward motor unit recruitment, shunt versus spurt muscles, believe me, I can go on and on. When everyone else was talking about TUT, I was carefully analyzing INTRA-REP speed variations. But the funny thing is, when I looked at very successful athletes and coaches, none of them seemed to worry about any of this stuff! They just trained their ass off and left the tech stuff to the science-geeks. Now I AM being just a bit facetious. It never hurts to know your stuff. But some of us (and that means YOU) tend to overthink things a bit. Sure, learn everything you can, but none of it means a think if you don't work hard in the gym on a consistent basis. Now, with that being said, let's explore this concept of "Time Under Tnesion:" For those of you who aren't familiar with this concept, it was first popularized in North America by a now well-known strength coach in Muscle Media 2000 magazine about 6 years ago. This author suggests monitoring the actual time that a muscle is "under tension" during an exercise by using a clock or stopwatch, and recording this parameter in the training log via a numerical system first used by Australian strength coach Ian King. An example of this system might look like this: 5/2/2 Which indicates that the weight is lowered for 5 seconds, paused for 2, and finally lifted over a duration of 2 seconds. It was further suggested that an exercise's TUT should be periodically (perhaps every 3 weeks) varied as a way of respecting the principle of variation. And, many people began to make renewed progress in their training when they started to monitor and vary their TUT, and soon the concept became very popular. Most people's confusion regarding TUT stems from Poliquin's assertion that for optimal muscle growth, a muscle should be under tension for between 40 and 70 seconds on any given set. The problem with this idea is that when you look around at some of the most muscular athletes in the World of sport- namely Olympic weightlifters and powerlifters, you'll find that the average number of reps per set is 2-3, and the total TUT for any set is around 10-12 seconds. It should also be kept in mind that the total TUT for the workout may be far more telling than the TUT for any given set. Therefore, one might rack up only 10 seconds of TUT for each set, but if numerous sets are performed, the TUT for the workout remains high nevertheless. Why has the notion of TUT become so popular? I think in large part because when exercisers began to regulate TUT in their workouts, it simply made them work harder! In other words, it slowed them down, which in many instances helps to create better awareness of proper lifting technique, and eliminates the presence of momentum during the exercise (momentum isn't necessarily a bad thing incidentally; it's just that most lifter's don't know how to apply compensatory acceleration— a subject for a future quick tips). If you'd like to monitor TUT in your own training, the easiest way is to buy a small electric metronome at a music store— the kind that can emit an auditory click every second. This way, you won't need to watch a clock as you lift to monitor TUT. I think you'll find that slowing things down can create a new awareness of your lifting technique, and it certainly can make you work harder. It also tends to improve your eccentric strength, which can have multiple benefits in terms of overall strength and muscle growth. Monitoring TUT is also a valid idea in terms of keeping tabs on exactly what is happening during your workouts— not just sets, reps, and rest periods, but lifting speed as well. The more exacting you are in monitoring training parameters, the better equipped you'll be in knowing exactly what works and what doesn't. Now, another thought for you: A rarely discussed aspect of "time under tension" is intra-rep speed fluctuations. In other words, when you perform the eccentric phase of a squat, should the speed be constant throughout the entire range of motion, or could there be advantages to varying the speed as the weight is lowered? While many possibilities exist, my "rule of thumb" recommendations are as follows: Eccentric speed fluctuations: Using the squat as an example, the lower you go, the weaker and more vulnerable you are, due to compromised leverages. Therefore, begin the descent relatively quickly, and begin to slow down as you near the bottom position. This is done for the following reasons. First, if the bar speed is relatively slow throughout the entire eccentric phase, you'll become fatigued which will impair your ability to lift the weight in a forceful manner. Second, if the bar speed is great toward the end of the eccentric phase, it'll require enormous force to reverse the accumulated momentum of the bar. The solution is found by beginning the descent relatively fast, and ending it relatively slowly. Concentric speed fluctuations: It is a waste of energy to try to move a weight quickly when you are in a position of poor leverage. Using the deadlift as an example, in the early stages of the concentric phase, your hips and knees are flexed significantly, which means that your leverage is poor. Therefore, there is no point in trying to "explode" the bar from the floor. It is more appropriate to "squeeze" the weight from the floor. However, once the bar reaches approximately knee level, the weight can be accelerated because the hips and knees are more extended, which creates better levers. Static/dynamic protocols: Another example of intra-rep speed fluctuations can be seen in the little-used, but highly effective technique of static/dynamic training. In this method, one might (for example) begin to curl a barbell, and then stop one-third of the way up for five seconds, then continue to two-thirds, pausing for an additional five seconds before completing the concentric portion of the curl. The same procedure may be used during the eccentric phase of the exercise. Another variant of static/dynamic training is to use a prolonged (e.g, 10 seconds) eccentric phase, followed by a similarly prolonged pause, followed by a small number (3-5) of rapid full-range repetitions. For example, on the bench press exercise, one could lower the bar for 10 seconds, hold it tightly at chest level for 10 seconds, and then perform 3 rapid repetitions before terminating the set. The contrast between the static and dynamic work is a powerful stimulus for the nervous system, and can be very effective both for plateau-breaking and for overall strength development. Static/dynamic training is particularly effective with exercises which have very short range of motion, such as curls and calf raises, and also for situations where you wish to strengthen a particular "slice" of an exercises range of motion. OK Louis, that's the end of my seminar on TUT! If you'd like to get more information on these and related concepts & principles, allow me to suggest a few resources for you:
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