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| Banned Geregistreerd: Jan 2007 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 18 Geslacht: M
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Iemand die simpel bill star kan uitleggen. ik weet dat je 3 dagen hebt om te trainen en per week gewicht omhoog gaat. moeten de drie dagen zo zijn ingedeelt? heavy light medium ? en vervolgens moet je altijd bij 5x5 tot je toppunt gaan.. of wanneer moet je pr 's breken naar week 5? 5x5 moet je je gewicht laten oplopen of wat... pff |
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| Banned Geregistreerd: Jan 2007 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 18 Geslacht: M
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| Advanced Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: May 2007 Locatie: België Leeftijd: 24 Geslacht: M
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Hier staat alle uitleg: Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version Dit is het originele programma van Bill Starr waarop dit geinspireerd is: New Lifter Kijk ook eens bij de logs, veel mensen hebben dit al gedaan.
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| Dutch Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Aug 2003 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 23 Geslacht: M
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5x5 simpel uitgelegd The premise of the routine is progressive overload, meaning that every week you are putting increasing amounts of stress on the muscles, generally through small increases in the amount of weight used. The progressive overload forces the body to grow to adapt to the increasing amounts of stress, even though the body really isnt training to failure. The routine consists of choosing a heavy compound exercise to use for each bodypart, these can include, squat, deadlifts, bench press, close grip bench, standing barbell curls, military press, etc. On top of the initial 5x5, you also choose 2 other exercises, and aim to do 2 sets on each, of 8-10 reps per set. Here's a sample routine Chest Flat bench 5x5 incline dumbbell press 2x8-10 incline flyes 2x8-10 The key for me when using this routine is to start light, at weights that you can easily nail your reps and concentrate on form. For example, say you can bench 225lbs for 8 reps, start with 195lbs on the bar. This should be easy, but if you keep your reps slow and in control, you will still get a good pump and have a good workout. Next week, bump up the weight by a SMALL increment, remember the key is to be able to keep adding weight, it's not a race to get to the massive poundages. If you add too quickly you will plateau in a hurry and the routine wont do jack for you. So you hit 5x5 on 195, next week its 200, the week after 205, etc. When you get to a point where you're starting to have trouble hitting your reps, add something extra to help, if you're natural, thats when I would throw in creatine and whatever else as this will help you keep adding weight. If you dont get all 5x5, then do not add more weight next week, stick with the same and the odds are you'll hit it next time you try. This routine is very effective as it targets fast twitch muscle fibres(5x5) as well as slower twitch(8-10reps) all in the same workout. Generally when done correctly you can gain lots of size as well as some pretty incredible strength all at the same time. I'm only a bodybuilder and dont give a rat's ass about strength, but have hit lifts (ie, deadlift 550lbs for 5 reps) that would allow me to compete as a powerlifter. ***** Follow up post: Eventually no matter what you are doing or what you are on, the strength gains will come to an end. What I have found worked well for me was when I couldnt add more weight to the 5x5, I switched over to 5x3 instead, and was able to keep adding weight. The beauty there is that as you keep adding weight past where you were stuck on the 5x5, that weight you were stuck on will feel like a joke when you go back to it as you were just lifting more, albiet for less reps. Here's an example I used when my squats went stale. I had been stuck on 405lbs for a while, but just couldnt get all my sets so that I could add more weight, so heres what I did. week 1 410lbs 5x3reps week 2 415lbs 5x3reps week 3 420lbs 5x3 reps week 4 425lbs 5x3 reps week 5 430lbs 5x3reps week 6 435lbs 5x3 reps then back to 5x5 week 7 405lbs 5x5(now this felt really light after 435lbs) week 8 410lbs 5x5 etc....... But this time when I finally plateaued again, I was squatting 445lbs for 5's. Notice the weight increases were very small, percentage wise it was almost nothing, but see how it added up. When I first started the 5x5 routine back in the day, I was squatting 225lbs for 5x5, and since then the program has allowed me to put over 200lbs on my squat, and about 4" on my quads i have a lot of old injuries, so I do a really thorough warmup, just enough to get the blood flowing as well as get the feel for the bigger weights, but not enough to fatigue anything. Here's an example for bench 95lbs x 10 reps 135 x 8 reps 185lbs x 5 reps 225lbs x 5 reps 275x 2-3 reps(just getting the feel of the big stuff) 325lbs 5x5
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| Banned Geregistreerd: Dec 2005 Locatie: België Leeftijd: 22 Geslacht: M
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Hier nog een Bill Starr artikel: Bill Starr’s Strength Training Program |
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| Advanced Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: May 2007 Locatie: België Leeftijd: 24 Geslacht: M
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Volgens mij is dit gewoon een schema om je bench press (of een andere oefening) te verhogen, gebaseerd op het 5x5 principe. Het is echter geen compleet programma, het zou wat veel zijn om voor elke oefening dit te doen: "On top of the initial 5x5, you also choose 2 other exercises, and aim to do 2 sets on each, of 8-10 reps per set."
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| Ripped Bodybuilder | Re: bill starr
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__________________ BP 1x85 DL 1x150 SQ 2x130 @1.70 meter @70kg Log: http://forum.dutchbodybuilding.com/f81/log-wwe-119605/ | |
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| Dutch Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Aug 2003 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 23 Geslacht: M
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| Advanced Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: May 2007 Locatie: België Leeftijd: 24 Geslacht: M
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OK, interessant. Hoe zag je volledige schema er dan uit en hoe lang heb je het gevolgd? Heb je er een log van bijgehouden? Wat waren je resultaten precies?
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| Dutch Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Aug 2003 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 23 Geslacht: M
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ik deed 5x5 voor benchpress,squats, deadlift en ez-curl. Daarnaast gewoon veel variatie in oefeningen. Gewichten weet ik niet meer precies maar geloof me maar, je gaat enorm vooruit. Als je maar het geduld hebt om in de eerste weken met lichter gewicht te trainen en elke week 2.5kg erbij te schuiven, daar draait het hierbij om. Hier het bijbehorende topic Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums - Steroidology - The 5x5 routine
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| Advanced Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: May 2007 Locatie: België Leeftijd: 24 Geslacht: M
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Here's a sample routine Chest Flat bench 5x5 incline dumbbell press 2x8-10 incline flyes 2x8-10 Wat deed je dan voor deadlift, squat en curl? Of deed je gewoon voor 4 oefeningen 5x5 en liet je de assisance weg?
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| Dutch Bodybuilder | Re: bill starr
Ik heb het een tijd geleden naar nederlands vertaald, lees maar eens door |
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| Ripped Bodybuilder | Re: bill starr
He knul train je nog?
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| Competitive Bodybuilder | Re: bill starr
Meesterlijke bump wwe
__________________ Klik hier voor mijn Bill Star logje: http://forum.dutchbodybuilding.com/f...-logje-153940/ Foto's: http://forum.dutchbodybuilding.com/f...ml#post2835444 176 cm lang 64 kg Stats nu: Deadlift:5x100 Bench:3x5-60 Incline:5x57,5 Bor:3x5-60 Squat:3x5-85 |
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| Competitive Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Sep 2007 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 21 Geslacht: M
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