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| Freaky Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Apr 2006 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 25 Geslacht: M
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hij heeft anders wel gelijk..
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
en waarom dan ? onderbouw eens wat. zomaar wat roepen en elkaar pluimen in de reet duwen kunnen we allemaal ! als je niets heb in te brengen, moet je niet posten in dit topic. Groeten |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
Fragment laat ik trouwens voor wat het is, ik ga CJC - 1295 proberen. |
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| Freaky Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Apr 2006 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 25 Geslacht: M
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zoals al eerder gezegd is zal je resultaat gewoon beter zijn als je er eerst natural t een en ander af cut, en zal cardio misschien ook geen slecht idee zijn.
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
Als je nou eerst eens probeerd om goed te lezen ! De kuur begin ik pas over een week of 4. Maarrr ik ben nu al aan het cutten, en verwacht op 12 % te zitten als ik begin met me kuur. Tijdens de kuur wil ik nog 2-4% zakken. Groeten |
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| Freaky Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Jun 2007 Locatie: Overal en nergens Leeftijd: 37 Geslacht: M
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Je kunt met voeding en trainen nog wel een paar % zakken met je vetp. evt. met behulp van C.E.A stack. Als je net onder de 10% Vetp. zit komt je evt. kuur beter aan. ik kan verder geen commentaar geven op je kuurbestand omdat ik die op e.o.a manier niet kan openen. Verder succes met je plannen
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| Dutch Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Aug 2006 Locatie: Nederland Leeftijd: 28 Geslacht: M
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GH- en igf stimulator met een halfwaardetijd van 5.8-8.1 dagen, interessant ga dit zeker volgen. Jammer dat je fragment eruit gooit zou wel eens willen weten hoe je daarop gaat. Je zult wel een goede supplier hebben, met al die gekke peptides-shizzle. |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
gebruikers ervaring van anabolicreview. CJC-1295 is very much dose dependant. But to say that you need 2 mg a week is not true. In my experience and some people that I know, 1mg is giving them the same results that 8iu a day of hgh were giving them. Again though, dose dependant, and everyone responds a little differant. I used HGH for almost a year straght at 4iu a day for general health purposes and felt great, like I was 20 yo again, and being 45yo, well, I love hgh. But when I decided to give cjc a shot, I started out at 2mg a week, and within 2 weeks, the sides were horrific, water retention, hands that were so achy and stiff, hot flashes, the works. So I dropped my dose to 1mg a week, and still was a little too much in comparison to hgh at 4iu a day. I do 2mg a month, 500mcg a week, and feel fabulous. sex drive. sleep paterns, energy, and also stayiong at a healthy weight, regardless of what my diet is. I eat fairly clean, but am at 225 to 230, with very little fluctuation. I have been doing cjc for around 4 months now. In comparison to $ cjc vs. hgh, I will stick with cjc. I love it. So do my friends and other people I know that are doing it. Everyone is diferant though. Some will prefer hgh, and some will realiaze that cjc and 1 other new compound soon to hit the market will be the way of the future. This is my experiences with these compounds. If you want to get big, peptides alone will be a long road unless you have the genetics. So peptides and AS is the way to go. I just love to feel young again, and cjc, hgh is what does it for me. peace Laatst aangepast door Navy : 17 May 2008 om 18:06. |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
ik ga 1000mcg per week zetten (2 x 500mcg) waarschijnlijk om de 5 dgn of om de 3. ff rekenen nog. dus met 2mg doe je 2wkn en de prijs is schappelijk. groeten |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
het is trouwens een amerikaans product, geen chineese bagger. |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
CJC-1295 (written by LakeMountD) GHRH1-44, also known as Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (other synonyms are GRF and GHRF), is a peptide that is produced in the hypothalamus and secreted to stimulate the release of human growth hormone (hGH). It consists of a 44 amino acid long sequence and is released in a pulsatile fashion similar to the pulsatile release of hGH. The active portion of this peptide can be found as a 29 amino acid long peptide and is appropriately named GHRH1-29. This pulsatile release of various peptides is due to the negative feedback loop that is part of the hGH axis and controls the amount of hGH that your body produces to keep it in a homeostatic environment. Despite the effectiveness of GHRH to stimulate growth hormone release there are a number of problems associated with using it in vivo. The most noteworthy problem is the half life of the peptide, which has been shown to be ~7 minutes using advanced HPLC technologies that have proven to be very accurate. The reason for this relatively short half life is due to an enzyme called dipeptidylaminopeptidase IV (DPP-IV), which has a high affinity for the amino acids Ala and Pro and in the case of GHRH it cleaves the 1 and 2 positions that consist of Tyr-Ala, creating GHRH3-29, an inactive form of the peptide. To prevent the problems associated with natural GHRH, pharmaceutical companies looked at new ways to increase the half life and bioavailability of these smaller peptides with technologies that work far different than other technologies, such as PEGylation. This brings us to the introduction of a far more stable form of GHRH called CJC-1295. CJC-1295 is a tetrasubstituted peptide analogue of GHRH with D-Ala, Gln, Ala, and Leu substitutions at positions 2, 8, 15, and 27 respectively. These substitutions create a much more stable peptide with the substitution at position 2 to prevent DPP-IV cleavage, position 8 to reduce asparagine rearrangement or amide hydrolysis to aspartic acid, position 15 to enhance bioactivity, and position 27 to prevent methionine oxidation. These substitutions are key in increasing the overall half life of CJC-1295 but there lies an even greater reason as to why the half life has been extended from ~7 minutes to greater than 7 days! Bioconjugation is a relatively newer technology that takes a reactive group and attaches it to a peptide, which in turn reacts with a nucleophilic (usually a partially negative molecule) entity found in the blood to form a more stable bond. Albumin, one of the most abundant substances in the human body is chosen as the nucelophile by this particular peptide thanks to a Cys34 thiol group that attracts it. By combining the tetrasubstituted GHRH analogue with maleimodoproprionic acid using a Lys linker, you create a GHRH peptide with a high binding affinity for albumin. Once the CJC-1295 molecule has attached itself to albumin, it is given an extended half life and bioavailability thanks to the albumin preventing enzymatic degredation and kidney excretion. In fact, bioconjugation is so effective that there was less than 1% of CJC-1295 left unreacted in vivo and over 90% was stabilized after subcutaneous injection. This means that you get more of what you paid for working for you. There was no DPP-IV degredation observed on CJC-1295 in any of the various experiments conducted. Due to the extremely long half life of CJC-1295 it is plausible to use this peptide once per week with outstanding results. Much like compounds such as testosterone enanthate, however, it would be wiser to use ½ dosages twice per week to keep serum levels high and to get maximal GH release and limit the pulsatile fashion of hGH. Various experiments have been conducted to test the effectiveness of CJC-1295 in vivo and the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism has reported dose-dependent increases in mean plasma GH concentrations by 2-10 fold for more than 6 days and increased IGF-1 concentrations 1.5-3 fold for 9-11 days after a single injection! Not only that but they proved the mean half life to be 5.8-8.1 days and after multiple doses showed mean IGF-1 levels remained above baseline for up to 28 days following! No serious adverse reactions were reported in any group. The graphs below show that this peptide has the ability to stimulate growth hormone very significantly and is much more cost effective than illegally buying hGH. Another very positive benefit of CJC-1295 is its ability to promote slow wave sleep. Slow wave sleep is also known as deep sleep and is the portion of sleep responsible for the highest level of muscle growth and memory retention. SWS is decreased significantly in older adults and also with people who tend to exercise later in the evening. This peptide has a benefit to side effect ratio that exceeds all others currently being legally sold and would make a great addition to ones training regimen or post cycle therapy. |
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| Competitive Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Jun 2006 Locatie: eindhoven Geslacht: M
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Hmm, het klinkt allemaal heel erg mooi, en ik wil het graag geloven. Beetje zoals HGH frag. Heeeel veel mensen vonden het tegenvallen en een waist of money.. Om deze reden moet je maar goed loggen, ik zal het volgen
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| Colossal Veteran Geregistreerd: Apr 2006 Locatie: waar mijn bed slaapt; neerpelt dus Leeftijd: 42 Geslacht: M
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hahah heb net al in het ander topic gereageerd maar lijkt me een mooi product en zou dan gewoon om de 3,5 dag zetten zo ongeveer ;ben benieuwd wat dat gaat doen .Schijnt ook goed te zijn voor ons oudjes zoals ik dat lees.En is dat legaal of lees ik dat nui verkeerd in dat laatste regeltje
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
Ja ik ben ook erg benieuwd. Ik ben nog geen negatieve reactie's tegen gekomen. Maar goed, echt veel gebruikerservaringen zijn er nog niet. Het is altijd ff afwachten, maar ik ben theoretisch overtuigd. Bovendien wil ik jullie maar vooral mezelf niet langer in spanning houden. Ga het morgen bestellen, verwacht het dan einde deze week. Ik kan ook wel wachten tot aan me kuur, maar dan is het week moeilijk te beoordelen. Momenteel ben ik namelijk clean (op IGF na dan hehe) dus dan heb ik nog 3 wkn de tijd dit goedje only te nemen. Ik hou jullie op de hoogte. BTW om de 3 dgn leek mij ook een goed plan. (300-400mcg om de 3 dgn ??!! we kijken wel) |
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| Competitive Bodybuilder Geregistreerd: Jun 2006 Locatie: eindhoven Geslacht: M
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Misschien zou je later kunnen testen of ed injecties een toegevoegde waarde hebben.. Nog wat vraagjes...: - IM of SubQ? - Wat zijn de bijwerkingen buiten de standaard GH bijwerkingen? Ik kan ze niet vinden op het net verder.. (er worden processen aangestuurd door middel van een exogeen middel waar nog weinig research van te vinden is, dus ik vraag me af of er dingen om de hoek komen kijken waar je minder vrolijk van wordt) Succes ermee!
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
Hier nog een gebruikerservaring voor de geinteresseerde. I've been taking CJC-1295 (DAC-GHRH) since the first of the year have done 28mg and have another 52mg to go. Taking 2mg/wk is the most I need and it feels stronger than 5iu/day rhGH. starting this sunday I'll be taking the 2mg/wk CJC-1295 for 26wks and I'll add 1mg/wk PEG-MGF for 12 wks. What I like about CJC-1295 is that it doesn't shutdown natural GH and the GH produced in the pitutitary gland is much better than even serostim. I can't give any sources but, I pay $10/mg for CJC-1295 and $15/mg for PEG-MGF from a very big biotechnical company, so it is far cheaper than rhGH. I love the warm rush and the beet red skin every time I inject. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
ff een update. CJC gaat hem niet worden ivm mijn source heeft het spul backorder. Maar heb inmiddels 500iu Blue tops besteld. Kijken wat dat doet. |
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| Deep Water | Re: Kuur 2008 IGF - HGH Fragment - T3
LMAO wtf Samadhi you smoke CRACK hardcore. IGF/LR3IGF-1 is NOTHING like what you are saying. NOTHING. Ive been using Lr3IGF-1 since I was 18 years old. When I first used it I was using the australian company who created it, GroPep's stuff before they caught on that 99% of their sales were to bodybuilders. Ive also used GenSci's Igtropin (overpriced bullshit), generic chinese LR3IGF-1 (blue top), and LR3IGF-1 from a half dozen various suppliers. Its alright. But not in anyway shape or form anything like what your saying. First, LR3IGF-1 nor IGF-1 gives DICKALL for gains. Seriously. Anyone is DAMN LUCKY if they gain just 5lbs in a 4 week cycle of LR3IGF-1. I can gain 30lbs in 4 weeks with Dianabol at 1/5th the cost of LR3IGF-1. Lr3IGF-1 gives OKAY pumps. NOTHING like what your saying, nothing. Try OXANDROLONE if you want to feel a REAL PUMP, will make Lr3IGF-1 pumps look like a day at the beach...... *reminiscing time - wavey flashback distortions* Years ago a new canadian UG lab released an Oxandrolone product that was supposed to be 25mg/capsule of Oxandrolone. However to stir up good feedback with their first batch, they doubled up the dosage, to 50mg per capsule yet said it was just 25mg. So everyone, including me, was taking 2 capsules thinking we was using 50mg, but in reality using 100mg (a whopping dose of Oxandrolone). Just standing there, not lifting any weights or anything, gave such an INTENSE pump in the lower back it was painful as fucking hell, this is without any exercise, just simply standing there. If I lifted a cup of coffee my arms would get pumped, if I lifted a weight, theyd get so pumped I was literally afraid the muscle was going to rip off its ligaments from the pump alone. Even off 50mg of Oxandrolone, I get pretty bad lower back pain from the lower back PUMP, this is without exercise. Alls I do is take 50mg of Oxandrolone, and walk up 15 steps, and by the top my lower bac |