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B12 The Vital Vitamin

Oral B12 equivalent to B12 injections
by Terri Mitchell


For decades, people have been injecting themselves with vitamin B12 because they thought oral supplements were not adequately absorbed. New research indicates that oral B12 supplements may be as good or better than injections.

Those who have low levels of vitamin B12 in the blood have long resorted to injections of this essential B vitamin, an uncomfortable delivery method at best. New evidence suggests that oral B12 works as well as injections, according to a study published in the journal Blood -but high doses must be taken. This verifies reports from Sweden dating from the 1970s that pernicious anemia, a disease of B12 deficiency, can be controlled with oral B12. Resolving the debate over oral-versus-injections is very timely, given that vitamin B12 is a homocysteine-lowering factor. Homocysteine has emerged as a strong and independent risk factor for heart disease and stroke, and is also connected to chronic diseases such as arthritis, Alzheimer's and diabetes.

According to the recent data, 2,000 micrograms/day of oral B12 cures the symptoms of B12 deficiency, including elevated homocysteine, neurological problems, and elevated methylmalonic acid (a marker of B12 deficiency). The oral version works as well as injections, with the added feature of maintaining high levels in the blood over time. The study showed that after a month, the blood levels of the vitamin in people receiving injections dropped and stayed at a plateau, whereas blood levels of those receiving oral B12 continued to rise.


B12 lowers homocysteine

Although oral B12 did not reduce homocysteine in every case, when it did, the results were dramatic. Some of the people in the study had homocysteine levels as high as 175 micromoles per liter (the optimal safe range for homocysteine is under 6). In the case of one patient, 2,000 micrograms of oral B12 for four months reduced their homocysteine from 113.4 micromoles per liter to 8.2. Injected B12 also significantly reduced homocysteine - the main difference being that the injected version worked faster.

Interestingly, some of the patients did not respond to supplemental vitamin B12. It was discovered that they were also deficient in folate, and until folate was replaced, their homocysteine remained elevated. Vitamin B12 and folate work synergistically in the chemical reactions that recycle homocysteine back to methionine in the methylation cycle. It is also interesting to note that participants in the study with both B12 and folate deficiencies were depressed, had anorexia, and addiction to alcohol. It is well-established that folate or B12 deficiency causes psychiatric problems ranging from loss of memory to insanity. This is probably due to the vitamin's role in methylation - a biochemical process crucial for the maintenance of brain chemistry and nerves. B12 plays a role in the synthesis of serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine.

Intrinsic factor is secreted by the stomach to help the body absorb B12.
Older people produce less intrinsic factor, and are thus more vulnerable to
B12 deficiency. In the study mentioned at the beginning of this article, high-dose oral B12 was absorbed as well as injectable. No supplemental intrinsic factor was given. Intrinsic factor is usually associated with a chronic B12 deficiency known as pernicious anemia. Patients with pernicious anemia lack intrinsic factor usually because of insufficient stomach acid.
Others may have antibodies to the factor - an inappropriate autoimmune response to one's own proteins. Injected B12 has traditionally been used for pernicious anemia because it bypasses the absorption problem. However, doctors are beginning to realize that pernicious anemia patients are not the only patients they see with B12 deficiencies. Anyone with elevated homocysteine, psychiatric disorders, eating disorders, sleep disorders, or who is elderly is potentially B12-deficient. These conditions are more likely caused by diet-induced B12-deficiency than a lack of intrinsic factor. All should respond to oral B12.


Different forms of vitamin B12

Cyanocobalamin is the usual form of B12 sold in this country.
Hydroxocobalamin and adenosylcobalamin are two other forms. For the past 20 years English doctor Anthony G. Freeman has been attempting to get the cyano form of B12 removed from the market and replaced with the hydroxocobalamin.
He points out that the cyano form is not effective for certain eye degenerations caused by smoking and alcohol.

But another form, methylcobalamin, may be the best of all. Research shows that this active form of B12 has the unique ability to provoke the regeneration of nerves without adverse side effects. This is because B12 facilitates methylation, the process that creates and maintains nerves and brain chemicals. Research shows that a lack of methylcobalamin causes degeneration of the brain and spinal cord - a condition known as subacute combined degeneration. In this disease, nerves lose their insulation and begin to deteriorate. This process, known as demyelination, occurs in other neurological diseases such as multiple sclerosis and chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy.

High doses of methylcobalamin have been used to treat degenerative neurological diseases in rodents and humans. People with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's disease) took 25 mg a day of methylcobalamin for a month. In this disease, the neurons that control muscle movements deteriorate. The double-blind, controlled study showed that methylcobalamin improved muscle response after a month of treatment. Methylcobalamin has been given to mice with the mouse version of muscular dystrophy. A remarkable reversal of degenerating nerves occurred. Methylcobalamin did not stop the disease, but it slowed it down.

It has been documented that the level of B12 decreases every year with age.
Age-related deficiency is associated with hearing loss, memory impairment and psychiatric disorders, along with heart disease and stroke. Alzheimer's disease (AD) patients have less B12 in their spinal fluid than people without the disease. They also have less SAMe - the substance required to methylate cobalamin (B12) to methylcobalamin, the active form. The failure of B12 supplementation to improve AD patients in some studies may be due to their inability to activate B12 in the brain. Methylcobalamin is already methylated: it doesn't require SAMe.

Another feature of aging is the increase of free radicals. Free radicals are elevated in Parkinson's disease (PD) and AD. In PD, a substance known as MAO-B is also elevated. MAO-B creates free radicals, and the MAO-B inhibitor, selegiline, is often given to PD patients. MAO-B is linked to memory impairment. In 1992 Italian researchers reported that elevated MAO-B, dementia and B12 deficiency all go together.


B12 deficiency diseases

Diet, age and drugs are the prime culprits behind B12 deficiency. Meat is the primary source of vitamin B12. Strict vegetarians - people who eat no animal products whatsoever are at risk for B12 deficiency. (Vegetarians who eat eggs and fish will get B12 in their diet. In addition, some seaweeds contain the vitamin, and the gut may manufacture a certain amount.) However, a meat diet doesn't guarantee that a person won't be B12 deficient. Some elderly people, for example, can eat high quantities of meat but still be B12 deficient because they don't have enough hydrochloric acid in their stomach to maintain intrinsic factor. Meat-eaters taking certain drugs are also at risk for B12 deficiency. Cimetidine (Tagamet), omeprazole (Prilosec), and other drugs that inhibit gastric secretion can cause B12 deficiency. Anyone who chronically takes drugs for stomach ulcers, "heartburn" or gastroesophageal reflux may be creating B12 deficiency in themselves.

There appears to be something else causing B12 deficiency in older people that researchers don't yet understand. In a Dutch study, researchers found that about 25% of the participants had low B12. But gut problems only accounted for 28% of those cases. The cause in the remaining 72% is a mystery. Researchers do know that more people may be deficient than currently appreciated. When researchers at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Oklahoma used modified criteria for B12 deficiency (elevations in homocysteine and methylmalonic acid, plus serum B12 up to 300 pg/mL-the norm is usually 200), they uncovered twice as many people with B12 deficiency than would have been detected by serum values alone.

Elevated homocysteine is found in many chronic diseases including arthritis and diabetes. Researchers in Japan have discovered that noninsulin-dependent diabetes patients with blood vessel problems have elevated homocysteine.
When treated with 1000 micrograms of vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin) daily for three weeks, homocysteine levels dropped significantly. Although the study didn't follow the patients long enough to see the effects of long-term treatment, the condition of the patients' blood vessels will likely improve as the levels of homocysteine are reduced, as homocysteine is extremely toxic to blood vessels.


B12 and sleep

Those who can't get to sleep at night may need vitamin B12. Studies show that B12 causes an earlier release of melatonin at night which resets the sleep-wake cycle. (Melatonin has been called "the sleep hormone" because of its effects on sleep). B12 acts directly on the pineal gland to provoke a faster release of melatonin. At the tail end, B12 causes melatonin to drop off faster. B12 helps you get to sleep earlier, and may help you wake up earlier if you leave a curtain open to the morning sun. B12 sensitizes you to morning light, which helps you wake up. Very serious sleep-wake disorders have been successfully treated with vitamin B12 in the methylcobalamin form, although it may not work for everyone. Unfortunately, the vitamin doesn't help people who want to cut down on their sleep time altogether.

During the 1950s, B12 was frequently given to heart patients. The vitamin fell out of vogue as drugs took over the therapeutic picture. New findings on the connection between homocysteine and vascular disease, plus the failure of drugs to have an impact on the number of heart attacks and strokes, have shifted the focus back to B12 and other homocysteine-lowering vitamins. The notion that B12 must be injected to be effective has been disproven in recent studies. Swedish experience shows that oral B12 is effective for the treatment of pernicious anemia.

B12 has many benefits, including the reduction of homocysteine, restoration of normal sleep patterns, and mood effects. B12 deficiency is a fairly common deficiency in elderly people who frequently have disrupted digestion.
It can cause symptoms that look exactly like Alzheimer's disease, and it's crucial for the retention of folate in cells.


Testing for B12 deficiency

There are several tests geared towards diagnosing B12 deficiency.
Homocysteine is an indirect test. A more direct method is to measure methylmalonic acid which becomes elevated in B12 deficiency. There are other tests which measure gut secretions or antibodies to gut secretions. The Schilling test can help ferret out what is causing the deficiency, and a simple blood test can show blood levels.


Dosage

The dose of oral B12 supplements for sleep disorders is 3000 mcg a day, while 2000 mcg a day has proven useful in lowering homocysteine and correcting B12 deficiency. In published studies, it took four weeks for the sleep effect, and four months for the homocysteine-lowering effect-so be patient. People with degenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's, should take very high doses in the range of 3-4000 mg, supplemented with SAMe.

There is also the option of taking methylcobalamin, which is the neurologically active form of B12. The potential age-reversing benefits are well-worth the modest price. Methylcobalamin is a form of B12 that is sold as a drug in Japan. It is the methylcobalamin form of B12 that has been used in most European and Japanese studies showing efficacy against neurological disease. The liver converts about 1% of ingested cyanocobalamin into methylcobalamin, but it is far more efficient to dissolve a good tasting methylcobalamin lozenge in the mouth for immediately assimilation into the brain.


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Bron: LEF Magazine Augustus 1999, Terri Mitchell http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag99/aug99-report3.html
 
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Vitamin B12 (cobalamin) is an important water-soluble vitamin. In contrast to other water-soluble vitamins it is not excreted quickly in the urine, but rather accumulates and is stored in the liver, kidney and other body tissues. As a result, a vitamin B12 deficiency may not manifest itself until after 5 or 6 years of a diet supplying inadequate amounts. Vitamin B12 functions as a methyl donor and works with folic acid in the synthesis of DNA and red blood cells and is vitally important in maintaining the health of the insulation sheath (myelin sheath) that surrounds nerve cells. The classical vitamin B12 deficiency disease is pernicious anaemia, a serious disease characterized by large, immature red blood cells. It is now clear though, that a vitamin B12 deficiency can have serious consequences long before anaemia is evident. The normal blood level of vitamin B12 ranges between 200 and 600 picogram/milliliter (148-443 picomol/liter).

A deficiency often manifests itself first in the development of neurological dysfunction that is almost indistinguishable from senile dementia and Alzheimer's disease. There is little question that many patients exhibiting symptoms of Alzheimer's actually suffer from a vitamin B12 deficiency. Their symptoms are totally reversible through effective supplementation. A low level of vitamin B12 has also been associated with asthma, depression, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, tinnitus, diabetic neuropathy and low sperm counts.
Clearly, it is very important to maintain adequate body stores of this crucial vitamin.

The amount of vitamin B12 actually needed by the body is very small, probably only about 2 micrograms or 2 millionth of a gram/day.
Unfortunately, vitamin B12 is not absorbed very well so much larger amounts need to be supplied through the diet or supplementation. The richest dietary sources of vitamin B12 are liver, especially lamb's liver, and kidneys.
Eggs, cheese and some species of fish also supply small amounts, but vegetables and fruits are very poor sources. Several surveys have shown that most strict, long-term vegetarians are vitamin B12 deficient. Many elderly people are also deficient because their production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb the vitamin from the small intestine decline rapidly with age.

Fortunately, oral supplementation with vitamin B12 is safe, efficient and inexpensive. Most multi-vitamin pills contain 100-200 microgram of the cyanocobalamin form of B-12. This must be converted to methylcobalamin or adenosylcobalamin before it can be used by the body. The actual absorption of B12 is also a problem with supplements. Swallowing 500 micrograms of cyanocobalamin can result in absorption of as little as 1.8 microgram so most multivitamins do not provide an adequate daily intake. The best approach is to dissolve a sublingual tablet of methylcobalamin (1000 micrograms) under the tongue every day. That will be sufficient to maintain adequate body stores. However, if a deficiency is actually present then 2000 microgram/day for one month is recommended followed by 1000 microgram/day.
[noot: dit is echt overdreven: gewoon 1-2 weken elke dag nemen en dan overgaan op 2x/wk vanaf het eind van de 2e week]
Some physicians still maintain that monthly injections of vitamin B12 is required to maintain adequate levels in the elderly and in patients with a diagnosed deficiency. There is however, no scientific evidence supporting the notion that injections are more effective than sublingual supplementation.

Bron: Hans R. Larsen MSc ChE
http://www.yourhealthbase.com/vitamin_B12.html
 
Interessant.. Misschien eens die tabs proberen
 
Wat kosten die tabs eigenlijk, volgens mij zijn ze stukken duurder dan injects niet?
 
Probleem met de injects is vooral : hoe kom je er aan? En dan ook nog spuiten. Niet iedereen lukt dat of wil gaan spuiten. OK, in België miss geen probleem.

De methylB12 die we nu hebben liggen is 35 eurie inclusief BTW & verzendkosten. (op de site: http://www.pasioingredients.com/productDetail.asp?ProductID=66 ) worden prijzen alleen ex BTW aangegeven.
 
Hoeveel van die tabs moet je per dag nemen dan, staat niet op de site hoeveel er in zit.
 
De eerste 2 weken elke dag 1 en daarna 2x per week. Ik neem overigens zelf het maar 1x per week, zolang blijft het doorwerken.
Bij voorkeur voor het trainen innemen of voor het slapen gaan. Wel zuigen , niet inslikken :D
 
Esperantisto zei:
De eerste 2 weken elke dag 1 en daarna 2x per week. Ik neem overigens zelf het maar 1x per week, zolang blijft het doorwerken.
Bij voorkeur voor het trainen innemen of voor het slapen gaan. Wel zuigen , niet inslikken :D
Interessant stuk espi!! Weet jij toevallig nog een adresje waar we dit kunnen kopen?
 
Esperantisto zei:
De eerste 2 weken elke dag 1 en daarna 2x per week. Ik neem overigens zelf het maar 1x per week, zolang blijft het doorwerken.
Bij voorkeur voor het trainen innemen of voor het slapen gaan. Wel zuigen , niet inslikken :D


Om hetzelfde resultaat te krijgen als injects?
 
Ja het word dan onder je tong opgenomen als je het slikt krijg je hetzelfde effect als dat van gewone tabs. Dus zuigen hond.
 
Eh zit je nu zelf reclame te maken voor je product of zie ik dat verkeerd.

Maar goed, als het echt net zo goed als injecteerbare B12 is, dan is het een mooi alternatief.
 
Esperantisto zei:
De eerste 2 weken elke dag 1 en daarna 2x per week. Ik neem overigens zelf het maar 1x per week, zolang blijft het doorwerken.
Bij voorkeur voor het trainen innemen of voor het slapen gaan. Wel zuigen , niet inslikken :D

Merk je er zelf wat van?

Hoelang duurt het voordat de bestelling wordt geleverd?
 
Reem zei:
Eh zit je nu zelf reclame te maken voor je product of zie ik dat verkeerd.

Maar goed, als het echt net zo goed als injecteerbare B12 is, dan is het een mooi alternatief.

Ja, ik ga vanavond even op Amerikaanse boards kijken voor ervaringen met deze vorm van b12
 
Tijdje geleden wekte je mijn interesse al met dit product en zit er nog steeds over te denken. Degenen die het gaan proberen: schrijf aub een review ;)
 
Zuigen is stom, Spuiten is stoer :(
 
Ik heb 2 potjes besteld 1 voor me pa en 1 voor me zelf,


Maak wel een een review als ik er klaar mee ben.
 
Esperantisto zei:
Probleem met de injects is vooral : hoe kom je er aan? En dan ook nog spuiten. Niet iedereen lukt dat of wil gaan spuiten. OK, in België miss geen probleem.

De methylB12 die we nu hebben liggen is 35 eurie inclusief BTW & verzendkosten. (op de site: http://www.pasioingredients.com/productDetail.asp?ProductID=66 ) worden prijzen alleen ex BTW aangegeven.

betaling alleen mogelijk via paypal?
 
Rob G zei:
Wat kosten die tabs eigenlijk, volgens mij zijn ze stukken duurder dan injects niet?
Lijkt me stug... nog geen 40 cent voor een ampul, en je hebt er maar 1 per week nodig...
 
bartp zei:
Lijkt me stug... nog geen 40 cent voor een ampul, en je hebt er maar 1 per week nodig...

Dat zeg ik bro, volgens mij zijn die tabs stukken duurder! :)
 
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