5 km = 5 km .. Right?

[el smurfo]

neem nu... je fietst 5 km (in de veronderstelling dat je een fiets hebt ... en KAN fietsen)
de eerste keer fiets je de 5 km vredig door de natuur, genietend van de fluitende vogeltjes en het zomers briesje.. je wordt zelfs voorbijgestoken door een oude bomma maar op dat moment is de wereld van jou en kan het je geen barst schelen.. morgen neem je wel wraak en steek je haar als een sneltrein voorbij..
De tweede keer fiets je die 5 km supersnel! Die bomma van gisteren valt bijna omver van de windverplaatsing die je veroorzaakt doordat je haar aardig snel voorbij steekt en voor je het weet ben je thuis..
Heb je nu meer calorieen verbrand toen je snel reed, of meer calorieen toen je traag reed? Volgens mij dat laatste maar ik ben het niet zeker en mijn kennis over vetverbranding is al weer helemaal de diepte ingezakt *schaam-schaam*

[roxxe]

[el smurfo]

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ooh help me help me uit de nood
of de jager schiet me dood

[sanca]

Nice topic

[EricR]

Calorieën per Km voor fietsen: snelheid maakt weinig uit.

Het maakt overigens wel uit hoe snel je fietst, die kop klopt dus niet maar in die thread wordt iets soortgelijks besproken.

[el smurfo]

Origineel gepost door EricR

Calorieën per Km voor fietsen: snelheid maakt weinig uit.

Het maakt overigens wel uit hoe snel je fietst, die kop klopt dus niet maar in die thread wordt iets soortgelijks besproken.

tnx
weer een levensvraag beantwoord
karma morgen
mn karmazak is al leeg vandaag

[jumperke1tje]

wanneer zweet je het meest...?

[el smurfo]

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wanneer zweet je het meest...?

in de sauna

[jumperke1tje]

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in de sauna

fiets dan in de sauna

[el smurfo]

Origineel gepost door sanca

Nice topic

tnx

[Gondwana]

Als je die 5 km snel fiets verbrand je meer calorien wand de extra weerstand die je krijgt van de wind evolueert explosief ( op de curve dus).

[Jesaja]

Als ik voor beenmassa ga dan fiets ik fucking hard.. dan voel ik ze lekker verzuren.

[DvO]

Vetverbranding is bepaalde percentage van je max hartslag.

Fiets je 5km rustig en zit je op die percentage van je max hartslag doe je er bv een half uur over. dus ben je een half uur bezig met je vetverbranding.

Fiets je 5km erg snel dus veel hoger met je hartslag, en dus meer bezig met conditie + vet verbranding. je fiets er bv dan maar 15 min over. Dus je bent maar 15 min bezig met vetverbranding.

Conclusie = langzaam is beter

[baka boko]

Origineel gepost door DvO

Vetverbranding is bepaalde percentage van je max hartslag.

Fiets je 5km rustig en zit je op die percentage van je max hartslag doe je er bv een half uur over. dus ben je een half uur bezig met je vetverbranding.

Fiets je 5km erg snel dus veel hoger met je hartslag, en dus meer bezig met conditie + vet verbranding. je fiets er bv dan maar 15 min over. Dus je bent maar 15 min bezig met vetverbranding.

Conclusie = langzaam is beter

vandaar dat slome mensen altijd zo ripped zijn.

[truebreaktrue]

Snel fietsen zorgt ook voor een langere naverbranding!

[Filibeirnr1]

Laat ik hier ff antwoorden adhv Tom Venuto's nieuwsbrief van april:
(het komt er op neer dat het beter is cardio te doen in the first place dan je grijs te suffen in de zetel over welke cardio je best zou doen )


Hi Filibeir,

Last week's newsletter about high intensity interval training versus steady state training produced more emails, blog comments and web hits than any newsletter so far this year.

Obviously, there is a lot of interest in cardio training and how to do it right.

Sadly, most people are still doing 2 things terribly wrong and it's killing their results.

As I thought about reviewing the newest scientific study from Australia this week, or explaining the post workout "afterburn effect" (EPOC), it dawned on me to backtrack and ask...

WHY are people still confused about fat burning cardio in the first place when the solution is drop dead simple, common sense and right in front of our noses?

I thought to myself, "if I could help remove the SOURCE of the confusion, then regardless of which cardio program you choose, every decision and action that emerges from your new understanding would be more productive right?"

(right!)

As best as I can figure, there are two major reasons why people are still mucking up their cardio programs for fat loss.

REASON #1 NOT ENOUGH FOCUS ON TOTAL CALORIES BURNED

Most people aren't burning enough darn calories.

Why? Well, I guess these folks are too busy worrying about the "proper" type of exericse, the mode (steady or interval), the "optimal" ratio of intervals, or the "best" duration.

Some people coast along on the treadmill at 2.3 miles per hour or some similar sloth-like pace and they think that just by hitting a TIME goal, such as 45 or 60 minutes, that with "X" duration completed, they are assured to get the results they want.

On the other extreme, we have folks who have found or created some mega-intense, super-duper short training protocol like the "4-minute wonder workout from Japan." Just because the workout is high in intensity and performed in intervals, they too think they are assured to get the results they want.

What's missing in both cases is the realization that total fat loss is a function of total calories burned (assuming you don't blow your diet, of course).

AND...

Total calories burned is a product of INTENSITY X DURATION, not intensity OR duration.

Too much focus on one variable at the exclusion of the other can lead to a less than optimal total calorie burn and disappointing results. And remember, intensity and duration are *variables* not absolutes! ("Variable" means you can change them... even if your "guru" sez you can't!)

when you understand the relationship and interplay between INTENSITY X DURATION you will find a "SWEET SPOT" where the product of those variables produces the maximal calorie burn and maximum fat loss, based on your current health condition and your need for time efficiency.


REASON #2: TOO MUCH FOCUS ON WHAT TYPE OF CALORIES BURNED

There is one whopper of a mistake that is still KILLING more people's cardio programs than any other, and that is:

Way too much focus on WHAT you are burning during the workout - fats or carbohydrates - also known as "substrate utilization."

This idea comes from the notorious "fat burning zone" myth which actually tells people to exercise SLOWER and LESS intensely to burn more fat.

Hold on a minute. Pop quiz. Which workout burns more calories?

(A) A 30 minute leisurely stroll through the park
(B) A 30 minute, sweat-pouring, heart-pounding run?

Like, DUH!

And yet we STILL have trainers, authors and infomercial gurus telling us we have to slow down if we want to burn more fat Bizarre.

The reason people still buy it is because the "fat burning zone" myth sounds so plausible because of two little science facts:

* The higher your intensity, the more carbs you burn during the workout
* The lower your intensity, the more fat you burn during the workout

And thats the problem. You should be focusing on total calories burned during the workout and ALL DAY LONG, not just WHAT type of fuel you are burning during the workout.

It's not that fat oxidation doesn't matter, but what if you have a high percentage of fat oxidation but an extremely low number of calories burned?

If you want to be in the "fat burn zone," you could sit on your couch all day long and that will keep you there quite nicely because "couch sitting" is a really low intensity
("fat-burning") activity.

(Of course, "couch sitting" only burns 37 calories per half hour...)

HERE IS THE FAT-BURNING SOLUTION

In both cases, the solution to burning more fat is drop dead
simple: Focus your attention on how you can burn more TOTAL calories during your workout and all day long.

If you want to burn more fat, burn more calories and you can do that by manipulating ANY of the variables : intensity, duration and also frequency.

If you build your training program around this concept, you will be on the right track almost every time.

THERE IS MORE TO IT...

Naturally, we could argue that it's not quite this simple and that there are hundreds of other reasons why your cardio program might not be working... and I would agree, of course. But on the exercise side, the ideas above should be foremost in your mind.

On the nutrition side, you have to get your act together there too.

For example, many people increase their food intake at the same time as they start a cardio training program thereby putting back in every calorie they burned during the workout! Then some of them have the nerve to say, "SEE, cardio doesnt work!"

Incidentally, this is the exact reason that a few studies showed that adding cardio or aerobic training to a diet "did not improve fat loss": It's not because the cardio didn't work, it was because the researchers didnt control for food intake and the subjects ate more!!

It should go without saying that nutrition is the foundation on which every fat loss program is built.

Choose the combination of type, intensity, duration and frequency that suits your lifestyle and preferences the best, and WORK THE VARIABLES to get the fat loss results you want

But whichever cardio program you choose, remember that a solid fat burning nutrition program, such as Burn The Fat, Feed The Muscle is necessary to help you make the most of it.

Train hard and expect success,

Tom Venuto
Fat Loss Coach
www.BurnTheFat.com

PS For more information on fat burning nutrition and Burn The Fat, Feed The Muscle, visit:
http://www.burnthefat.com

PPS Comments? Questions? Post them at:
http://www.BurnTheFatBlog.com

[EricR]

Mooi verhaal, alleen was dat de vraag niet.

[el smurfo]

zat ik net ook te denken
het antwoord was:hoe sneller je fietst hoe meer calorieen je verbruikt

[sanca]

Origineel gepost door el smurfo

zat ik net ook te denken
het antwoord was:hoe sneller je fietst hoe meer calorieen je verbruikt

Logisch, toch

[jumperke1tje]

Origineel gepost door DvO

Vetverbranding is bepaalde percentage van je max hartslag.

Fiets je 5km rustig en zit je op die percentage van je max hartslag doe je er bv een half uur over. dus ben je een half uur bezig met je vetverbranding.

Fiets je 5km erg snel dus veel hoger met je hartslag, en dus meer bezig met conditie + vet verbranding. je fiets er bv dan maar 15 min over. Dus je bent maar 15 min bezig met vetverbranding.

Conclusie = langzaam is beter

daarom dat ik meer dan 2 kilo minder weeg na een fietstocht met een gemiddelde van 35 km/u ...