Salbutamol ervaringen

[dennis999]

na enig gezoek op internet ben ik er achter gekomen dat voor ons (de bb'er) de gemiddelde dosis op 4mg-16mg p/d dag zit. dit over de dag verdeeld ivm korte halfwaardetijd.
wie heeft hier ervaringen mee? wat vond je ervan kortom.....deel je ervaringen met deze leergierige jongen

[dennis999]

niemand?

[G21]

ja als astma patient krijg je het in de vorm van een inhaler..in 100-200mg "Pufjes" ik neem aan dat je de poedervorm bedoelt.

lijkt me moeilijk te verkrijgen..

[dennis999]

heb 2 en 4 mg tabs uit turkije. de inhaleerdingen zijn weinig tot niet effectief, beperken hun werking nl tot de longen.
op us boards zijn wel positieve geluiden te horen aangaande ventolin

[G21]

ja heb ook wel eens gehoord dat het spul oral behoorlijk anabool zou zijn..weet er verder niet het fijne van..

[lorenzo]

Ik heb zelf ventolin 400.Ik gebruik het alleen als ik last van mijn luchtwegen heb.Ik heb nooit het idee gehad dat ik hiervan groeide en ook nooit anabole sites van gehad.Was het maar waar.

[dennis999]

zoals al eerder gezegd hebben pompjes/inhaleerdingen weinig tot geen effect behalve dan op de longen. je moet de tabs hebben.
op verschillende us boards hoor ik erg positieve geluiden over ventolin.
doseringen liggen dan op 12-16mg oraal.
ben vandaag begonnen met 4mg bij ontbijt en neem uur voor de training nog eens 4mg eens kijken hoe en wat.
kijk anders eens op Entrez PubMed staan ook interessante artikels.
blijkbaar is er op dit board weinig ervaring met orale ventolin

[bigtony]

Origineel gepost door dennis999

zoals al eerder gezegd hebben pompjes/inhaleerdingen weinig tot geen effect behalve dan op de longen. je moet de tabs hebben.

Van de pufjes moet je het idd niet hebben, anders was ik een grote mofo geweest (krijg het van de doc, vanwege hooikoorts)..... ik denk dat de werking wel zal meevallen. Wat ik heb begrepen is salbutamol het kleine broertje van clen...

ben wel benieuwd naar je ervaringen.

[dennis999]

Actually there are numerous studies that show it can improve strength, athletic performance and muscle size.

Carter WJ, Lynch ME. Comparison of the effects of salbutamol and Clenbuterol on skeletal muscle mass and carcass composition in senescent rats. Metabolism. 1994 Sep;43(9):1119-25.

Uc EY, Lambert CP, Harik SI, Rodnitzky RL, Evans WJ. Albuterol improves response to levodopa and increases skeletal muscle mass in patients with fluctuating Parkinson disease. Clin Neuropharmacol. 2003 Jul-Aug;26(4):207-12.

Caruso JF, Hamill JL, De Garmo N. Oral albuterol dosing during the latter stages of a resistance exercise program. J Strength Cond Res. 2005 Feb;19(1):102-7.

van Baak MA, Mayer LH, Kempinski RE, Hartgens F. Effect of salbutamol on muscle strength and endurance performance in nonasthmatic men. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2000 Jul;32(7):1300-6

Caruso JF, Signorile JF, Perry AC, Leblanc B, Williams R, Clark M, Bamman MM. The effects of albuterol and isokinetic exercise on the quadriceps muscle group. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2000 Jul;32(7):1300-6.

[dennis999]

Background for the use of albuterol in treating DMD

Although gene therapeutic approaches offer the most promise for an ultimate cure for DMD, gene therapeutics are not expected to be available for several years or longer so that many patients diagnosed at the present time are not likely to benefit from gene therapy. Our goal at the DMDRC-UCLA and specifically in the clinical trial of albuterol is to identify pharmacological approaches to reduce the loss of muscle mass and strength in DMD boys, so that they may be able to take advantage of gene therapy treatments when they become available in the future. Albuterol, a beta-agonist, is a promising agent for this type of pharmacological approach. Beta-agonists are a class of drug that have been shown to improve the quality and functional properties of muscle, both in healthy and sick individuals. This drug already has FDA approval for the treatment of asthma, and could be readily available to patients if promising results ensue from this study. It is a drug with minimal side effects and is safe for a pediatric population. However, when albuterol is administered as an inhaled aerosol in the treatment of asthma, it has no effect on skeletal muscle. Albuterol effects on skeletal muscle require long-term release of the albuterol into the circulatory system, which can occur when the drug is taken as a slowly releasing tablet.

Rationale for the expected beneficial effects of albuterol administration to DMD boys
A substantial body of scientific and clinical research shows that albuterol is an effective drug for increasing muscle mass and strength. First, several animal studies have shown increases in lean muscle mass following administration of beta-agonists [1-13]. Collectively, these studies show that beta-agonist treatment of healthy animals can increase muscle protein content, muscle mass and muscle strength and that these increases can occur after only a few weeks of treatment.

Human studies have also shown increases in muscle mass following a regimen of beta-agonist treatment [14-16]. Healthy males treated with slow release albuterol for 14 days (16 mg/day) improved their quadriceps strength by 12% [14]. The increase in strength remained 7 days following treatment. In the same study, the strength of the hamstring muscles increased by 22% after 21 days of treatment. Caruso et al. [17] also documented increases in strength following 16 mg/day of albuterol treatment of healthy individuals. Unhealthy patients have been shown to experience even greater benefits from beta-agonist treatment than healthy patients. For example, orthopedic patients demonstrated a more rapid recovery following beta-agonist administration [16]. Thus, all current evidence supports the view that albuterol can be administered safely to humans to improve muscle strength and mass.

Beta-agonists improvemuscle mass and strength in mdx mice
Several investigations have provided the most compelling evidence of the efficacy of beta-agonist administration for the treatment of muscle pathology attributable to the absence of dystrophin [18-23]. Six separate investigations using the mdx mousemodel of DMD, have shown that treatment with Clenbuterol (another ß agonist) increases muscle mass and strength [18-23]. In these investigations, mdx mice were treated with Clenbuterol for 15 weeks [21, 22], 2 months [18], 4 months [23] or 1 year [18], and in all cases the treatment was beneficial in reducing the wasting normally associated with the disease process.

Steroidology Forums -- Uncover The Truth About Modern Bodybuilding - Anabolic Albuterol

[dennis999]

I thought albuterol was almost not effective at all but it seems I was wrong:

There's pretty compelling evidence that shows albuterol is just about as effective as Clenbuterol at increasing anabolism, with one exception: Albuterol is effective at "clinically safe" doses (in man), and Clenbuterol is not. In other words, in order to achieve an anabolic effect from Clenbuterol, you need to exceed its safety limits (which is not necessarily dangerous or undesirable for us healthy bodybuilder types).

On the other hand, albuterol, at clinically safe doses, increases whole-body protein content in rats by 20% in just three weeks! So it really does increase protein synthesis.

Furthermore, there are several studies that show albuterol is effective at significantly increasing power output and muscular endurance in man. Additionally, albuterol is heart healthy, prevents muscle catabolism, and is a pretty darn good asthma medicine to boot.

By all indications, albuterol should be effective for at least three to four weeks at increasing muscle mass before you need a week off from use. And from a personal experience, this bears out as well. I've had reasonably good success with albuterol, and I suggest anyone who has access to the drug to give it a try.

I recommend 16 mg a day, taken in either two doses spaced 8-10 hours apart, or four doses spaced about four hours apart. Go on cycles of 3-4 weeks on, one week off.

Be careful about stacking other adrenergic agonists, like ephedra, with albuterol. If you can tolerate the combination, go for it, but test it out first. The half-life of albuterol is about five hours, so if the doses are too frequent, there's a cumulative effect that could get the better of you, sending your heart into an arrhythmia that rivals the tempo of a hummingbird's wings.

Just be aware that there are enormous tolerance differences between people. So start out slowly with minimal doses until you get a handle on how your body reacts to these compounds.

And regarding aspirin, bag the idea of using it for anything other than pain control. Stacking it with stimulants is out of date and actually counterproductive.”

By the way...Salmeterol is just anther type of Beta-2 agonist like Albuterol. They are both generics. Albuterol is the generic form of Proventil and Ventolin. Salemeterol is the generic form of Serevent. Clenbuterol is the generic name of Spirovent. The way generic vs trade name works.......a pharmaceutical company has a "patent" for 10 years on any med they invent. They can name it anything they want and sell it for whatever they want, but they figure out a market price or else noone will buy it. But the drug still has a generic name. This is the way they recoup their millions of dollars on research. After 10 years other drug companies copy the drug and prices come down because of competition.

[dennis999]

newer drug for Americans is Salbutamol. Salbutamol is chemically very similar to Clenbuterol and is heavily used in the European circuit. The good news for some is that Salbutamol is readily available here in the United States. In America, Salbutamol is known as albuterol. It comes in tablet, inhaler and parenteral (injectable) forms.

Although many respectable steroid experts have pooh-poohed albuterol, in a recent head to head study (albuterol versus clenbuterol), albuterol was able to enhance muscle size regardless of age. (So did Clen, but not by that much better of a margin.)

The use of steroids (in high doses) may be associated with an unfavorable risk for heart disease; the same isn’t true for our friend albuterol. In fact, one recent study demonstrated that daily ingestion of albuterol improved cardiac disease risk profile (lower cholesterol, LDL, triglycerides, while raising HDLs, the good cholesterol). In this particular study a daily dose of 16 milligrams was employed (8 mg twice daily).

Some other benefits observed with albuterol are improved blood ammonia levels during exercise, enhanced leg strength (and overall strength gains when combined with weight training), and elevated resting energy expenditure. Also of interest is that albuterol has been shown to help improve aerobic (running) performance as well as anaerobic metabolism (which is used in weight training). One other "side effect" of Salbutamol/albuterol ingestion is that it can enhance thyroid hormones, especially the active thyroid hormone, t3.

Of interest to athletes who undergo drug testing is that Salbutamol/albuterol isn’t on any banned list, thus it’s considered acceptable for athletes to use (remember it’s traditionally used for treatment of asthma). The dose most commonly used (tablet/capsular form) for both athletic performance enhancement and fat loss is 16 mg per day. The dose is typically divided into 4 mg. taken four times per day. It can also be taken twice daily, often started at half dose and slowly increased as tolerated.

-From T-Mag.

[dennis999]

ff wat copy en paste shit opgezocht....kun mensen die interesse hebben maar niet hele web willen afzoeken eens kijken

[lorenzo]

Klinkt wel interesant,kun je er geen log van bijhouden?

[lorenzo]

Hoeveel is eigenlijk400microgram?4mg mischien.

[dennis999]

1000mcg staat tot een mg. als ik me niet vergis

log is btw aangemaakt

[ikzelf]

mijn salbutamol ervaring:
ga er heel erg van trillen en grotere longinhoud.

[krieltje]

zoooooooheeeey reuze bump van 2jaar KARMA

[StrakkeFreddy]

Hmmm, intressant topic...
Waar staat dat logje ergens, kan het niet vinden...